1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:20,980 entlichal the 2 00:00:20,980 --> 00:00:24,180 The arbitration against the wickedness and snares of the devil. 3 00:00:24,180 --> 00:00:26,020 So what did dead people look like? 4 00:00:26,020 --> 00:00:28,620 Sometimes people look bloody sometimes, they don't. 5 00:00:28,620 --> 00:00:30,020 You take them in a humbly price. 6 00:00:30,020 --> 00:00:31,420 What do you think they come around you? 7 00:00:31,420 --> 00:00:33,420 I have no idea. 8 00:00:33,420 --> 00:00:35,420 But I think they're after me. 9 00:00:35,420 --> 00:00:37,420 I want to help them at the end. 10 00:00:37,420 --> 00:00:39,420 If this doesn't work, I don't know what else to do. 11 00:00:39,420 --> 00:00:43,420 You guys have the power to protect a woman. 12 00:00:43,420 --> 00:00:45,420 There's three of them. 13 00:00:45,420 --> 00:00:47,420 They come at night time. 14 00:00:47,420 --> 00:00:49,420 They are angry that we're here. 15 00:01:01,420 --> 00:01:05,420 When I got to Penn State, I realized I wasn't alone in my quest. 16 00:01:05,420 --> 00:01:08,420 So I founded the Paranormal Research Society, 17 00:01:08,420 --> 00:01:11,420 dedicated to helping those who are haunted like I was. 18 00:01:11,420 --> 00:01:13,420 We are students. 19 00:01:13,420 --> 00:01:15,420 We are seekers. 20 00:01:15,420 --> 00:01:17,420 And sometimes we're warriors. 21 00:01:17,420 --> 00:01:19,420 And each time we help someone, 22 00:01:19,420 --> 00:01:22,420 I feel like I'm one step closer to finding the truth. 23 00:01:22,420 --> 00:01:25,420 This is Paranormal State. 24 00:01:31,420 --> 00:01:36,420 We were contacted back in February from Shelly Sainman, 25 00:01:36,420 --> 00:01:38,420 who says that her son, Matthew, 26 00:01:38,420 --> 00:01:41,420 eight years old, is experiencing paranormal phenomena. 27 00:01:41,420 --> 00:01:44,420 Some of the things that he's seen are black mists. 28 00:01:44,420 --> 00:01:47,420 He's experienced cold spots. 29 00:01:47,420 --> 00:01:50,420 Apparently the phenomena attacks him at night time. 30 00:01:50,420 --> 00:01:52,420 He will not sleep on his own. 31 00:01:52,420 --> 00:01:56,420 So, Adam, why don't you go over really quickly 32 00:01:56,420 --> 00:01:58,420 some of the psychological stuff? 33 00:01:58,420 --> 00:02:01,420 Sure. One of the things that Matthew's reporting 34 00:02:01,420 --> 00:02:03,420 is a voice is telling him to do bad things to his mom 35 00:02:03,420 --> 00:02:06,420 to jump off the roof to do other violent acts. 36 00:02:06,420 --> 00:02:08,420 We need to be cautious about how much of this 37 00:02:08,420 --> 00:02:12,420 he's kind of like weaving a fantasy to get some attention. 38 00:02:12,420 --> 00:02:16,420 We need to look at whether this stuff is just being made up 39 00:02:16,420 --> 00:02:19,420 or it's overactive imagination and kind of lack of education. 40 00:02:19,420 --> 00:02:22,420 The bottom line is that this family needs help. 41 00:02:22,420 --> 00:02:24,420 They've been to counselors and doctors 42 00:02:24,420 --> 00:02:26,420 and nobody can figure out what they're doing. 43 00:02:26,420 --> 00:02:28,420 They are desperate. 44 00:02:28,420 --> 00:02:30,420 Whether it's a paranormal or not, 45 00:02:30,420 --> 00:02:33,420 they're asking for our help. We need to go in there. 46 00:02:33,420 --> 00:02:36,420 MUSIC 47 00:02:36,420 --> 00:02:39,420 Hey, Shelly. We're on the road right now. 48 00:02:39,420 --> 00:02:41,420 I just wanted to see if anything's changed with Matthew 49 00:02:41,420 --> 00:02:43,420 since last time we talked. 50 00:02:43,420 --> 00:02:46,420 Yes, it has. The worst was in the kitchen, 51 00:02:46,420 --> 00:02:49,420 he thought he felt something felt behind him 52 00:02:49,420 --> 00:02:51,420 tightening around his neck. 53 00:02:51,420 --> 00:02:53,420 Do you think the activity is increasing, 54 00:02:53,420 --> 00:02:55,420 staying the same, going to the next level? 55 00:02:55,420 --> 00:02:57,420 Stay the same, going down. 56 00:02:57,420 --> 00:02:59,420 Increasing. 57 00:02:59,420 --> 00:03:02,420 Directors log, Shelly's reporting an increase in activity 58 00:03:02,420 --> 00:03:04,420 since she originally contacted us. 59 00:03:04,420 --> 00:03:07,420 I have a feeling that time is of the essence here. 60 00:03:07,420 --> 00:03:10,420 MUSIC 61 00:03:10,420 --> 00:03:12,420 Matthew, look out the window. 62 00:03:12,420 --> 00:03:15,420 Do you remember before talking to a guy named Ryan 63 00:03:15,420 --> 00:03:17,420 on the research team? 64 00:03:17,420 --> 00:03:19,420 They're going to start helping you. 65 00:03:19,420 --> 00:03:21,420 Are you excited? 66 00:03:21,420 --> 00:03:23,420 Yes. 67 00:03:23,420 --> 00:03:26,420 What do you hope comes out of this? 68 00:03:26,420 --> 00:03:29,420 Good things. Good things. 69 00:03:29,420 --> 00:03:33,420 MUSIC 70 00:03:33,420 --> 00:03:35,420 You want to go ahead and start getting things set up 71 00:03:35,420 --> 00:03:37,420 in the basement, searching. 72 00:03:37,420 --> 00:03:40,420 Now we'll go ahead and talk to Shelly, the client. 73 00:03:40,420 --> 00:03:42,420 Do you mind if I record this? 74 00:03:42,420 --> 00:03:44,420 I mean, I don't want to be intrusive. 75 00:03:44,420 --> 00:03:48,420 It's April the 1st. I'm with Shelly in her bedroom. 76 00:03:48,420 --> 00:03:51,420 It's really severely affecting him at school. 77 00:03:51,420 --> 00:03:53,420 I get notes and phone calls from his teacher. 78 00:03:53,420 --> 00:03:56,420 And falling asleep, that's been getting worse and worse, 79 00:03:56,420 --> 00:03:59,420 even though he's on his sleeping pills. 80 00:03:59,420 --> 00:04:02,420 There's no greater fear than seeing your child 81 00:04:02,420 --> 00:04:04,420 scared out of their mind. 82 00:04:04,420 --> 00:04:06,420 And I want to help him. And if this doesn't work, 83 00:04:06,420 --> 00:04:08,420 I don't know what else to do. 84 00:04:08,420 --> 00:04:10,420 Mm-hmm. 85 00:04:10,420 --> 00:04:13,420 Shelly, I just want you to know that I have seen 86 00:04:13,420 --> 00:04:15,420 other families that have gone through this. 87 00:04:15,420 --> 00:04:17,420 Yeah. 88 00:04:17,420 --> 00:04:19,420 The one thing that always gets to me is, 89 00:04:19,420 --> 00:04:21,420 all the darkness you have to go through, 90 00:04:21,420 --> 00:04:23,420 you're still there with your son. 91 00:04:23,420 --> 00:04:26,420 And there's so many times that parents can just say, 92 00:04:26,420 --> 00:04:28,420 you know what, I'm giving up. 93 00:04:28,420 --> 00:04:31,420 You know, Matthew does need you. 94 00:04:31,420 --> 00:04:34,420 And that's why I'm still here. 95 00:04:34,420 --> 00:04:37,420 Matthew didn't experience anything until he moved here? 96 00:04:37,420 --> 00:04:40,420 It was when we moved here, everything really happened. 97 00:04:40,420 --> 00:04:42,420 While I'm interviewing Shelly, 98 00:04:42,420 --> 00:04:45,420 I've asked Adam to interview her son, Matthew. 99 00:04:45,420 --> 00:04:48,420 Adam is a trained therapist, so I trust him to help me 100 00:04:48,420 --> 00:04:51,420 with the most sensitive of clients, especially children. 101 00:04:51,420 --> 00:04:53,420 How long has all this been going on? 102 00:04:53,420 --> 00:04:56,420 Mm, for quite a while. 103 00:04:56,420 --> 00:04:58,420 Are there any more now than there used to be? 104 00:04:58,420 --> 00:05:02,420 Not too many more of them are around. 105 00:05:02,420 --> 00:05:06,420 But they may start to be coming back again soon. 106 00:05:06,420 --> 00:05:09,420 Did any of them know that we were coming today? 107 00:05:09,420 --> 00:05:13,420 No. I never told anyone. 108 00:05:13,420 --> 00:05:15,420 Mm-hmm. 109 00:05:15,420 --> 00:05:17,420 Especially those black ones. 110 00:05:17,420 --> 00:05:19,420 Oh, the problem. 111 00:05:19,420 --> 00:05:21,420 Why are they a problem? 112 00:05:21,420 --> 00:05:26,420 Because somehow I know they're dangerous. 113 00:05:26,420 --> 00:05:29,420 Why do you think they come around you? 114 00:05:29,420 --> 00:05:31,420 I have no idea. 115 00:05:31,420 --> 00:05:34,420 But I think they'll after me. 116 00:05:34,420 --> 00:05:36,420 They may be. 117 00:05:36,420 --> 00:05:38,420 I can't tell you how much it means. 118 00:05:38,420 --> 00:05:42,420 These two have petrified to even go to sleep in their own house. 119 00:05:42,420 --> 00:05:45,420 It just affects every area of your life. 120 00:05:45,420 --> 00:05:47,420 It really does. 121 00:05:47,420 --> 00:05:49,420 How about you and Brian? 122 00:05:49,420 --> 00:05:51,420 Every area of our life. 123 00:05:51,420 --> 00:05:53,420 Yeah. 124 00:05:53,420 --> 00:05:56,420 I think the last thing that we had was at least sharing the same bed together 125 00:05:56,420 --> 00:06:01,420 and because of Matthew, that ended, so it can really tear your family completely apart. 126 00:06:01,420 --> 00:06:05,420 Take a pose of this. 127 00:06:05,420 --> 00:06:07,420 Errr. 128 00:06:07,420 --> 00:06:09,420 Can I see it? 129 00:06:09,420 --> 00:06:10,420 Mm-hmm. 130 00:06:10,420 --> 00:06:12,420 Can you see my hands? 131 00:06:12,420 --> 00:06:14,420 No, they're behind your back, see. 132 00:06:14,420 --> 00:06:16,420 Can you see that I look dead, right? 133 00:06:16,420 --> 00:06:18,420 Mm-hmm. 134 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:20,420 Look dead. 135 00:06:20,420 --> 00:06:22,420 So what do dead people look like? 136 00:06:22,420 --> 00:06:25,420 Sometimes they look bloody, sometimes they don't. 137 00:06:25,420 --> 00:06:27,420 So you do know why we come to people's houses? 138 00:06:27,420 --> 00:06:28,420 Why? 139 00:06:28,420 --> 00:06:33,420 Because sometimes people see scary stuff and they call us to help them figure it out. 140 00:06:33,420 --> 00:06:38,420 Adams told me that most of the apparitions Matthew sees are dark, cloudy figures. 141 00:06:38,420 --> 00:06:41,420 But only one of them appears to him in a distinctly human form. 142 00:06:41,420 --> 00:06:43,420 So I've asked Adam to find out more. 143 00:06:43,420 --> 00:06:47,420 Such as the white ones and the black ones and nobody that are people? 144 00:06:47,420 --> 00:06:50,420 Well, Timmy, you died a long time ago. 145 00:06:50,420 --> 00:06:52,420 Is Timmy still hanging around? 146 00:06:52,420 --> 00:06:54,420 Yeah, he's always around. 147 00:06:54,420 --> 00:06:58,420 Now Matthew, is there any place in the house where you've seen Timmy? 148 00:06:58,420 --> 00:07:01,420 You want to show me? 149 00:07:01,420 --> 00:07:03,420 Mm-hmm. 150 00:07:06,420 --> 00:07:08,420 Thank you. 151 00:07:08,420 --> 00:07:10,420 You over there? 152 00:07:10,420 --> 00:07:12,420 Yes. 153 00:07:12,420 --> 00:07:14,420 Right now or some other time? 154 00:07:14,420 --> 00:07:16,420 Now. 155 00:07:24,420 --> 00:07:29,420 Director's log. We just learned that Matthew, the boy who reportedly sees apparitions of dead people, 156 00:07:29,420 --> 00:07:31,420 sees one spear more often than the others. 157 00:07:31,420 --> 00:07:33,420 A spear he calls Timmy. 158 00:07:33,420 --> 00:07:36,420 When did he start talking about Timmy? 159 00:07:36,420 --> 00:07:41,420 I think we were in the van and I told him that we were in the van. 160 00:07:41,420 --> 00:07:45,420 I told him to ask the spirit, the spirit's name. 161 00:07:45,420 --> 00:07:51,420 And he said Timmy, and whenever his body was found, that's when it hit me. 162 00:07:51,420 --> 00:07:53,420 It had to be him. 163 00:07:53,420 --> 00:07:59,420 Director's note, Matthew's parents aren't forming us now that the body of a former tenant was found in the woods near the client's home. 164 00:07:59,420 --> 00:08:01,420 Six months after they moved in. 165 00:08:01,420 --> 00:08:03,420 You guys moved in here in 2002, right? 166 00:08:03,420 --> 00:08:05,420 Sounds about right. 167 00:08:05,420 --> 00:08:08,420 Did you know about what happened here, which were the former tenants? 168 00:08:08,420 --> 00:08:10,420 No, actually I didn't. 169 00:08:10,420 --> 00:08:14,420 So when did you find out about Timmy? Was it when they discovered him? 170 00:08:14,420 --> 00:08:16,420 Pretty much so. 171 00:08:16,420 --> 00:08:22,420 They've managed to keep all this information from their young son, including the victim's name, Timothy Shirey. 172 00:08:22,420 --> 00:08:25,420 Could this be the same Timmy? We need to learn more. 173 00:08:25,420 --> 00:08:28,420 Try to get as much information as possible about Timmy. 174 00:08:28,420 --> 00:08:34,420 So ask about when he disappeared, when's the last time they saw them, what was he like? 175 00:08:34,420 --> 00:08:36,420 Okay, who went, when, where, and why? 176 00:08:41,420 --> 00:08:48,420 I just would see him out in the yard. I mean we'd wave, you know, say hi, but I mean that was basically about it. 177 00:08:48,420 --> 00:08:49,420 Okay. 178 00:08:49,420 --> 00:08:56,420 The one son from over there had said that he was missing and his wallet was still there. 179 00:08:56,420 --> 00:09:02,420 The lawn was still there. The only thing that was missing was his .22 rifle. 180 00:09:02,420 --> 00:09:04,420 So can you just show us where he was found? 181 00:09:04,420 --> 00:09:06,420 Okay, you see the foundation up there? 182 00:09:06,420 --> 00:09:07,420 Mm-hmm. 183 00:09:07,420 --> 00:09:10,420 Right in that area there is where they found him. 184 00:09:10,420 --> 00:09:16,420 At that time all you could see was about halfway up on the trees. 185 00:09:16,420 --> 00:09:17,420 Okay. 186 00:09:17,420 --> 00:09:18,420 You know, because this was bad. 187 00:09:18,420 --> 00:09:20,420 To this big forest. 188 00:09:20,420 --> 00:09:21,420 Okay. 189 00:09:21,420 --> 00:09:25,420 He wants to find the guy who cut down the trees back there. 190 00:09:25,420 --> 00:09:27,420 Oh, I see. 191 00:09:27,420 --> 00:09:32,420 Because when Timothy was alive, the trees weren't cut down. 192 00:09:32,420 --> 00:09:34,420 Hi, my name is Ryan. I'm with the Penn State University. 193 00:09:34,420 --> 00:09:38,420 I'm calling on behalf of Miss Sakeman, and I know you guys used to know Timmy. 194 00:09:38,420 --> 00:09:42,420 I got a contact. There's a family, a husband and wife. 195 00:09:42,420 --> 00:09:46,420 Timothy was in their wedding, so he was very close to them. 196 00:09:46,420 --> 00:09:49,420 So I'm going to try to find out as much as I can about Timmy. 197 00:09:49,420 --> 00:09:52,420 They found him not too far from the house. 198 00:09:52,420 --> 00:09:54,420 Oh, right down the road. That's where we used to party. 199 00:09:54,420 --> 00:09:56,420 I searched that field. 200 00:09:56,420 --> 00:10:01,420 Maybe my boy went back there about two weeks after he disappeared, and I just thought he's back there. 201 00:10:01,420 --> 00:10:03,420 How old was he? 202 00:10:03,420 --> 00:10:05,420 About 21. 203 00:10:05,420 --> 00:10:06,420 21? 204 00:10:06,420 --> 00:10:07,420 Yeah. 205 00:10:07,420 --> 00:10:09,420 You mentioned that he would often wear big headphones though. 206 00:10:09,420 --> 00:10:10,420 Oh, constantly. 207 00:10:10,420 --> 00:10:15,420 When they first came out with Walkmans, he got one, and you never seen him without headphones. 208 00:10:15,420 --> 00:10:16,420 After that, no. 209 00:10:16,420 --> 00:10:19,420 If he didn't actually have the one listening to him, they were around his neck. 210 00:10:19,420 --> 00:10:20,420 Right. 211 00:10:20,420 --> 00:10:24,420 I think I remember you saying it was Julie who was telling you about Matthew seeing him with his headphones on. 212 00:10:24,420 --> 00:10:26,420 Yes. I got goosebumps when she told me. 213 00:10:26,420 --> 00:10:30,420 I don't know how a six or seven year old could even make something up about, and he had headphones on. 214 00:10:30,420 --> 00:10:32,420 I mean, come on. 215 00:10:33,420 --> 00:10:35,420 Oh, it's right there. 216 00:10:35,420 --> 00:10:37,420 Yeah, this is him. 217 00:10:37,420 --> 00:10:44,420 We've borrowed pictures of Timothy in hopes that Matthew can help us determine if the Timmy he is seeing is indeed Timothy Shirey. 218 00:10:44,420 --> 00:10:47,420 We're confident that Matthew's never seen a photo of Timothy before. 219 00:10:47,420 --> 00:10:54,420 So, if he makes a positive ID, this will be compelling evidence that this boy is truly being visited from the beyond. 220 00:10:54,420 --> 00:10:57,420 One of these people is your friend Timmy. 221 00:10:57,420 --> 00:10:59,420 One of these people? 222 00:10:59,420 --> 00:11:00,420 Yeah. 223 00:11:00,420 --> 00:11:02,420 That was taken a long time ago. 224 00:11:02,420 --> 00:11:04,420 Okay. That one? 225 00:11:04,420 --> 00:11:05,420 You? 226 00:11:05,420 --> 00:11:06,420 Yeah. 227 00:11:06,420 --> 00:11:08,420 Oh, that one was real. 228 00:11:08,420 --> 00:11:10,420 How did you know that's him? 229 00:11:10,420 --> 00:11:13,420 He looked like him. 230 00:11:13,420 --> 00:11:17,420 With each hour that passes, I think it's more likely that this kid is the real deal. 231 00:11:17,420 --> 00:11:23,420 It's really rare for an psychic to be able to see the spirit so clearly that they're able to make a positive ID. 232 00:11:23,420 --> 00:11:27,420 This could mean Matthew might be a very powerful clairvoyant. 233 00:11:27,420 --> 00:11:31,420 It also means he's going to attract both the good and the bad. 234 00:11:31,420 --> 00:11:33,420 That's a lot for a kid to handle. 235 00:11:33,420 --> 00:11:38,420 We've learned all we can about this case in Timothy Shirey through traditional investigative methods. 236 00:11:38,420 --> 00:11:43,420 Next, we'll have to perform dead time to try to contact any spirits that may be here directly. 237 00:11:43,420 --> 00:11:49,420 Whether they be Timmy or worse, the darker spirits that Matthew has seen. 238 00:11:49,420 --> 00:11:51,420 You're inclined to believe him? 239 00:11:51,420 --> 00:11:53,420 Yeah, from my observations. 240 00:11:53,420 --> 00:11:57,420 And his knowledge about the supernatural is phenomenal and consistent. 241 00:11:57,420 --> 00:12:00,420 Ghosts and especially demonic forces. 242 00:12:00,420 --> 00:12:02,420 They don't just show up, okay? 243 00:12:02,420 --> 00:12:04,420 There are reasons for that. 244 00:12:04,420 --> 00:12:08,420 Matthew is sensitive and they notice Matthew because Matthew can notice back. 245 00:12:08,420 --> 00:12:10,420 There are bad things here. 246 00:12:10,420 --> 00:12:12,420 One's a big one that's human size. 247 00:12:12,420 --> 00:12:14,420 They come at night time. 248 00:12:14,420 --> 00:12:16,420 They are angry that we're here. 249 00:12:16,420 --> 00:12:18,420 I think I should put this on. 250 00:12:28,420 --> 00:12:30,420 I think I need to sleep. 251 00:12:30,420 --> 00:12:32,420 I better put my sword to keep it. 252 00:12:32,420 --> 00:12:34,420 If I should I believe why I wait. 253 00:12:34,420 --> 00:12:38,420 I prefer to put my sword to take it. 254 00:12:38,420 --> 00:12:40,420 Timothy. 255 00:13:08,420 --> 00:13:10,420 At the sight of Timmy's death. 256 00:13:10,420 --> 00:13:14,420 If you have a question and someone beats you to it, 257 00:13:14,420 --> 00:13:18,420 wait at least 15 to 30 seconds before asking your question. 258 00:13:24,420 --> 00:13:28,420 Is there someone named Timothy here with us tonight? 259 00:13:38,420 --> 00:13:42,420 Do you miss the old forest, Timothy? 260 00:13:54,420 --> 00:13:58,420 If there is any evil in this room, 261 00:13:58,420 --> 00:14:02,420 I want you to know you will not push my son your way. 262 00:14:08,420 --> 00:14:10,420 Something's here. 263 00:14:12,420 --> 00:14:14,420 What do you think it is? 264 00:14:14,420 --> 00:14:16,420 Nothing good. 265 00:14:22,420 --> 00:14:24,420 It's right in front of me. 266 00:14:30,420 --> 00:14:32,420 Do you hear anything? 267 00:14:32,420 --> 00:14:34,420 Do you hear something? 268 00:14:34,420 --> 00:14:36,420 Yeah. 269 00:14:36,420 --> 00:14:38,420 Big breathing. 270 00:14:45,420 --> 00:14:47,420 Something's here. 271 00:14:48,420 --> 00:14:50,420 What do you think it is? 272 00:14:50,420 --> 00:14:52,420 Nothing good. 273 00:14:53,420 --> 00:14:56,420 We're on to something. It's trying to disrupt us. 274 00:14:56,420 --> 00:14:58,420 I'm sorry. 275 00:15:04,420 --> 00:15:06,420 You can just go and look down the basement steps. 276 00:15:06,420 --> 00:15:08,420 Tell me if you see anything. 277 00:15:08,420 --> 00:15:10,420 Hold on. Don't go down there. 278 00:15:10,420 --> 00:15:12,420 Why? I'm not afraid. 279 00:15:12,420 --> 00:15:14,420 It's trying to show itself. 280 00:15:14,420 --> 00:15:16,420 It may be trying to separate us. 281 00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:20,420 It was saying your name. 282 00:15:20,420 --> 00:15:22,420 I heard it as a data. 283 00:15:22,420 --> 00:15:25,420 Was it from the basement or just from all around? 284 00:15:25,420 --> 00:15:27,420 I don't know, man. 285 00:15:27,420 --> 00:15:29,420 Those were steps that I realized. 286 00:15:29,420 --> 00:15:31,420 That light was falling on something. 287 00:15:31,420 --> 00:15:34,420 It was like somebody leaning in. 288 00:15:34,420 --> 00:15:37,420 It's obviously trying to play games with us. 289 00:15:37,420 --> 00:15:39,420 Are these your old movements? 290 00:15:39,420 --> 00:15:41,420 Yeah. Should I call them back? 291 00:15:41,420 --> 00:15:43,420 Yeah. 292 00:15:44,420 --> 00:15:46,420 Alfie, Alfie, over. 293 00:15:47,420 --> 00:15:49,420 You guys can come back over here now. 294 00:15:49,420 --> 00:15:51,420 The time's over. 295 00:15:52,420 --> 00:15:54,420 Shelly was kind of getting emotional. 296 00:15:54,420 --> 00:15:56,420 She was like, you know, why are you here? 297 00:15:56,420 --> 00:15:59,420 And all of a sudden, we're sitting like a minute or two. 298 00:15:59,420 --> 00:16:01,420 It was just like, bam, bam, bam. 299 00:16:01,420 --> 00:16:03,420 It was like we were hearing things. 300 00:16:03,420 --> 00:16:05,420 We all had a heavy breathing right outside the room. 301 00:16:05,420 --> 00:16:08,420 And it was pretty, I mean, it was very distinct. 302 00:16:08,420 --> 00:16:11,420 And I was like, I was like, you've got to be kidding. 303 00:16:11,420 --> 00:16:13,420 It was like a big animal. 304 00:16:13,420 --> 00:16:15,420 Come on, let's see if anything got caught on there. 305 00:16:15,420 --> 00:16:17,420 Great. 306 00:16:17,420 --> 00:16:20,420 During dead time, we experienced many unexplained phenomena. 307 00:16:20,420 --> 00:16:23,420 Most notably, we heard strange noises and breathing. 308 00:16:23,420 --> 00:16:27,420 Now we need to see if any EVPs were captured by a recording equipment. 309 00:16:28,420 --> 00:16:30,420 Do you have your audio recorder? 310 00:16:30,420 --> 00:16:32,420 Yeah. 311 00:16:32,420 --> 00:16:35,420 I guess we'll listen to this audio. 312 00:16:38,420 --> 00:16:40,420 If there is any evil in this room, 313 00:16:40,420 --> 00:16:44,420 I want you to know you will not push my son your way. 314 00:16:44,420 --> 00:16:46,420 Okay. 315 00:16:53,420 --> 00:16:57,420 Our EVPs confirm breathing and other noises during dead time. 316 00:16:57,420 --> 00:17:02,420 But we are unable to connect the sounds to any unexplainable source. 317 00:17:03,420 --> 00:17:05,420 But whether there are spirits here or not, 318 00:17:05,420 --> 00:17:07,420 we need to perform house cleansings 319 00:17:07,420 --> 00:17:10,420 so that we can give this family some room for peace. 320 00:17:10,420 --> 00:17:12,420 They need to feel empowered. 321 00:17:12,420 --> 00:17:16,420 And I think that a spiritual cleansing can help start this process. 322 00:17:16,420 --> 00:17:20,420 I go room to room and bless each room. 323 00:17:21,420 --> 00:17:23,420 In God, I will praise His words. 324 00:17:23,420 --> 00:17:25,420 In the Lord, I will praise His word. 325 00:17:25,420 --> 00:17:27,420 In God, I have put my trust. 326 00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:29,420 I will not be afraid. 327 00:17:29,420 --> 00:17:31,420 For God is my defense. 328 00:17:31,420 --> 00:17:33,420 My God of mercy. 329 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:35,420 Amen. 330 00:17:35,420 --> 00:17:37,420 I'm almost falling over. 331 00:17:37,420 --> 00:17:40,420 Something really doesn't let me read the Bible in here. 332 00:17:40,420 --> 00:17:42,420 I told you this is a very powerful room. 333 00:17:42,420 --> 00:17:45,420 I can serve as a good manly concentrate on the words. 334 00:17:51,420 --> 00:17:53,420 This is the house of the Lord. 335 00:17:53,420 --> 00:17:57,420 Anything not of the Lord shall leave now and never return. 336 00:17:58,420 --> 00:18:00,420 This is also Matthew's room. 337 00:18:01,420 --> 00:18:04,420 Lord, we ask you the grant him peace. 338 00:18:05,420 --> 00:18:09,420 Before we close this house, 339 00:18:09,420 --> 00:18:12,420 I'll hold you to all with it. 340 00:18:35,420 --> 00:18:37,420 It's morning. We're all tired, 341 00:18:37,420 --> 00:18:40,420 but there's a noticeable sense of relief in the house, 342 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:43,420 especially with Matthew, which is very encouraging to me. 343 00:18:43,420 --> 00:18:47,420 Experiencing something this frightening as a kid can have a lasting impact. 344 00:18:47,420 --> 00:18:50,420 And that's something I happen to know all too well. 345 00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:52,420 So I have to give you something. 346 00:18:52,420 --> 00:18:54,420 Okay. 347 00:18:54,420 --> 00:18:57,420 Do you know what this is? 348 00:18:57,420 --> 00:19:00,420 Have you ever heard of holy water? 349 00:19:00,420 --> 00:19:02,420 Yes. 350 00:19:02,420 --> 00:19:04,420 I have to tell you a secret. 351 00:19:04,420 --> 00:19:09,420 When I was young, I had something happen to me when I was in my room. 352 00:19:09,420 --> 00:19:12,420 There were things that were coming out of the closet. 353 00:19:12,420 --> 00:19:15,420 I had someone give me holy water and it helped. 354 00:19:15,420 --> 00:19:17,420 What happened was whenever they'd come out of the closet, 355 00:19:17,420 --> 00:19:20,420 I'd throw the holy water at them and they'd go away. 356 00:19:20,420 --> 00:19:22,420 This is what we use. 357 00:19:22,420 --> 00:19:24,420 We get it from the church all the time. 358 00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:26,420 And we'll give you more if you want. 359 00:19:26,420 --> 00:19:28,420 This is what we do, you know? 360 00:19:28,420 --> 00:19:31,420 We go around helping other people just like you. 361 00:19:31,420 --> 00:19:33,420 But what we'll do is we'll keep coming back. 362 00:19:33,420 --> 00:19:35,420 Do you want us to come back? 363 00:19:35,420 --> 00:19:36,420 Yes. 364 00:19:36,420 --> 00:19:38,420 When do you want us to come back? 365 00:19:38,420 --> 00:19:41,420 Soon. 366 00:20:02,420 --> 00:20:03,420 Shelly! 367 00:20:03,420 --> 00:20:05,420 Hi! Come on in! 368 00:20:05,420 --> 00:20:06,420 Hi. 369 00:20:06,420 --> 00:20:07,420 See you again. 370 00:20:07,420 --> 00:20:08,420 Hi, Matthew. 371 00:20:08,420 --> 00:20:09,420 Hey, how are you? 372 00:20:09,420 --> 00:20:12,420 I think you made a world of difference in Matthew. 373 00:20:12,420 --> 00:20:14,420 And that's huge, you know? 374 00:20:14,420 --> 00:20:16,420 That's huge. 375 00:20:16,420 --> 00:20:18,420 And you think his behavior looks a little different now? 376 00:20:18,420 --> 00:20:19,420 Absolutely. 377 00:20:19,420 --> 00:20:20,420 Yes. 378 00:20:20,420 --> 00:20:22,420 Yes, dramatic. 379 00:20:22,420 --> 00:20:24,420 He hasn't smelled like that in so long. 380 00:20:24,420 --> 00:20:26,420 It makes you feel so good. 381 00:20:26,420 --> 00:20:27,420 Yeah. 382 00:20:27,420 --> 00:20:30,420 It's like somebody actually understands him now. 383 00:20:30,420 --> 00:20:32,420 Even though we could support him, 384 00:20:32,420 --> 00:20:34,420 we didn't have the complete understanding that you guys have, 385 00:20:34,420 --> 00:20:36,420 because you guys have been doing it for so long, 386 00:20:36,420 --> 00:20:39,420 which is what we was looking for, 387 00:20:39,420 --> 00:20:41,420 somebody that could make him understand, 388 00:20:41,420 --> 00:20:43,420 you know what, I'm not abnormal. 389 00:20:43,420 --> 00:20:44,420 And that's what we wanted. 390 00:20:44,420 --> 00:20:46,420 And you guys gave that to him, we feel. 391 00:20:46,420 --> 00:20:48,420 I think also, we're not here, 392 00:20:48,420 --> 00:20:51,420 you guys have the power to protect him. 393 00:20:51,420 --> 00:20:52,420 Thank you. 394 00:20:52,420 --> 00:20:53,420 Yes, thanks. 395 00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:54,420 Yeah, sure. 396 00:20:54,420 --> 00:20:55,420 Thank you. 397 00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:58,420 After a 24-hour intensive and a few follow-ups, 398 00:20:58,420 --> 00:21:01,420 I feel confident in saying that we've helped his family. 399 00:21:01,420 --> 00:21:05,420 Matthew is more at ease and is finally sleeping in his own bed again. 400 00:21:05,420 --> 00:21:08,420 The family has chosen to accept Matthew's gifts, 401 00:21:08,420 --> 00:21:10,420 and that's the best thing they can do for him. 402 00:21:10,420 --> 00:21:13,420 No one can stop Matthew from seeing dead people. 403 00:21:13,420 --> 00:21:15,420 We can only help him to understand 404 00:21:15,420 --> 00:21:19,420 and be there to protect him if we have to. 405 00:21:28,420 --> 00:21:30,420 Thank you.